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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#1947239205/22/24 | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger | |
 kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,320 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by Mule Deer kwg, Have owned a tested a bunch of different chronographs since 1979, when I bought my first. Unless there's some reason you "need" a chronograph to set up on the bench (which is handier on public ranges) the chronograph I'd suggest is one of the Competition Electronics ProChronos, which can be purchased for $150 or less. They're very reliable (have compared them directly, on the same day, set up in-line with various other chronographs that cost a lot more, including radar models) and they've shown the same average velocities, within 10 fps. I do most of my shooting at a local range. I have seen other folks set up their chrono's but it seems to be time consuming and awkward, especially if you have to call a cease fire while you set everything up. Meanwhile other shooters are waiting for you to finish setting up so they can get to shooting again. What is your opinion on the Magnetospeed ? I have heard it messes with the accuracy of the bullet. But, if all a guy is doing is getting bullet speed, accuracy isn't the first priority. We have nice benches at the range I shoot at and there is room for a radar style chrono. I have been looking at the LabRadars the most. It seems the prices are starting to come down now that Garmin has jumped in. kwg Last edited by kwg020; 05/22/24. For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member. |
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice kwg020#1947596905/24/24 | |
M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna | |
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,306 Likes: 56 | kmg, Yeah, the Magnetospeed can affect both groups and point-of-impact if attached to the barrel, which is why some shooters have put together stands for it. I did it by buying a front shooting rest at a local store for $50, and between the MS and the rest spent less than $200. That was a few years ago, so prices have no doubt gone up some since then.
As mentioned earlier, I own several chronographs, and have owned several others. This rig was the least expensive I could come up with for shooting at the local public range, where it's handiest to have the chronograph on the bench instead of out in front. Haven't tried the new Garmin unit, and probably won't because I have too many chronographs already. But from all the reports it looks like a great design, if it fits your budget. (Had one of the original Labradars for a few months, but eventually ran into its limitations, which made it useless for me, so sold it. John “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” |
Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#1947621705/24/24 | |
D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana | |
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,291 Likes: 22 | Sorta best of both worlds, Magnetospeed accuracy and price, not hanging on the barrel affecting POI. DF |
Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#1948547705/28/24 | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,320 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by Mule Deer kmg, Yeah, the Magnetospeed can affect both groups and point-of-impact if attached to the barrel, which is why some shooters have put together stands for it. I did it by buying a front shooting rest at a local store for $50, and between the MS and the rest spent less than $200. That was a few years ago, so prices have no doubt gone up some since then.
As mentioned earlier, I own several chronographs, and have owned several others. This rig was the least expensive I could come up with for shooting at the local public range, where it's handiest to have the chronograph on the bench instead of out in front. Haven't tried the new Garmin unit, and probably won't because I have too many chronographs already. But from all the reports it looks like a great design, if it fits your budget. (Had one of the original Labradars for a few months, but eventually ran into its limitations, which made it useless for me, so sold it. John Hello Md kwg Last edited by kwg020; 05/28/24. For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member. |
Re: 35 Whelen powder choice kwg020#1948625905/29/24 | |
M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna | |
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,306 Likes: 56 | kwg, I use conventional rests for the rifle, one under the forend and the other under the buttstock. I then adjust the rest with the Magnetospeed attached so the muzzle of the rifle sits just above the rear of the MS. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” |
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#1948629605/29/24 | |
D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana | |
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,291 Likes: 22 | Originally Posted by Mule Deer kwg, I use conventional rests for the rifle, one under the forend and the other under the buttstock. I then adjust the rest with the Magnetospeed attached so the muzzle of the rifle sits just above the rear of the MS. Probably something like this. DF
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice grayfox#1948632705/29/24 | |
D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana | |
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,291 Likes: 22 | Later version inspired by Reloder28 in TX. His version is nicer, as he has access to a fabrication shop. But this is the general idea. I flipped this pistol rest, rubber side down, metal (aluminum) side up. I used magnets under the table to hold the assembly. It's easy to drag the assembly around, magnets let it move, but hold it securely. It's easy to adjust the height with the screw jack knob. Not really any better than the rifle rest set up, just slicker and easier to adjust. DF
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice grayfox#1948669505/29/24 | |
D Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana | |
Dirtfarmer Campfire 'Bwana D Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 37,291 Likes: 22 | Forgot to include the magnets glued to the aluminum "T" bar. Those stick to the floating magnets under the deck. The aluminum channel bar can be moved forward and back depending on barrel length and how it needs to be positioned. Those magnets are really strong. This is what happens if the bar is suddenly removed and they crash into each other. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that. DF
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#19496508Yesterday at 03:33 PM | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,320 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by Mule Deer kwg, I use conventional rests for the rifle, one under the forend and the other under the buttstock. I then adjust the rest with the Magnetospeed attached so the muzzle of the rifle sits just above the rear of the MS. Great idea. kwg For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member. |
Re: 35 Whelen powder choice kwg020#19496738Yesterday at 04:53 PM | |
M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna | |
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,306 Likes: 56 | Actually, I pretty much stole it from dirtfarmer--but had been thinking about a potential solution for a while. He posted his here, and I constructed a variation. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” |
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Re: 35 Whelen powder choice Mule Deer#19497000Yesterday at 06:50 PM | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger | |
kwg020 Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,320 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by Mule Deer Actually, I pretty much stole it from dirtfarmer--but had been thinking about a potential solution for a while. He posted his here, and I constructed a variation. We have some pretty smart people on this forum. kwg For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member. |
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